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	<title>Comments on: The Open Video Conference was awesome.</title>
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		<title>By: Jim-Jimm</title>
		<link>http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2009/06/the-open-video-conference-was-awesome/comment-page-1/#comment-67840</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim-Jimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NIce article. Really nice! But i think that you could give some more info on a couple of points. However, keep on developing your great site! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NIce article. Really nice! But i think that you could give some more info on a couple of points. However, keep on developing your great site! <img src='http://www.getmiro.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2009/06/the-open-video-conference-was-awesome/comment-page-1/#comment-67460</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nicholasPCF  
i can understand the reason (earn some revenue to support miro) behind what you did i just think that it was poorly executed and that it can be fixed/corrected if somebody pointed it out, which i did. 
i hope that you can get that part right and proper because miro is a good idea/program and it should continue, improve and prosper. 
 
After thought: Sorry if i sounded like a conspiracy nut in my last comment, hope you got my point though </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nicholasPCF<br />
i can understand the reason (earn some revenue to support miro) behind what you did i just think that it was poorly executed and that it can be fixed/corrected if somebody pointed it out, which i did.<br />
i hope that you can get that part right and proper because miro is a good idea/program and it should continue, improve and prosper. </p>
<p>After thought: Sorry if i sounded like a conspiracy nut in my last comment, hope you got my point though</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2009/06/the-open-video-conference-was-awesome/comment-page-1/#comment-67457</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>( i copied this comment from reply to Jesse, replys seem to be hidden samewhat so i put the it here too, and since this is a reply to  nicholasPCF also  ) 
 
wow, i didn&#039;t even see that... 
Was it added recently, like after the complaints ? 
 
That text is too small and in the wrong place. 
Was it placed there so people wouldn&#039;t see it ? 
What person in there right mind can&#039;t see that that text is in the wrong place ? 
Seems to be placed on that page so people _will_ miss it. I am beginning to trust miro less and less.. 
 
I mean as soon as the &#039;save to&#039; dialog appears i choose a folder, click save and close that web tab/window  _without_ reading anything on that page. 
And i think that many people does the same thing. 
The only time i read that page is when the download doesn&#039;t start. 
 
That text should be place on the _main_ download page (  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.getmiro.com/download/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.getmiro.com/download/&lt;/a&gt; ) 
and in a way to gets the users attention. 
 
Beginning with fine print micro-sized text in the wrong place, oboy, are you becoming money hungry and/or just plain evil ? 
Are you going to close the source code too and put a price on miro ? 
 
It seems you are going in that direction... 
 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>( i copied this comment from reply to Jesse, replys seem to be hidden samewhat so i put the it here too, and since this is a reply to  nicholasPCF also  ) </p>
<p>wow, i didn&#039;t even see that&#8230;<br />
Was it added recently, like after the complaints ? </p>
<p>That text is too small and in the wrong place.<br />
Was it placed there so people wouldn&#039;t see it ?<br />
What person in there right mind can&#039;t see that that text is in the wrong place ?<br />
Seems to be placed on that page so people _will_ miss it. I am beginning to trust miro less and less.. </p>
<p>I mean as soon as the &#039;save to&#039; dialog appears i choose a folder, click save and close that web tab/window  _without_ reading anything on that page.<br />
And i think that many people does the same thing.<br />
The only time i read that page is when the download doesn&#039;t start. </p>
<p>That text should be place on the _main_ download page (  <a href="http://www.getmiro.com/download/" target="_blank">http://www.getmiro.com/download/</a> )<br />
and in a way to gets the users attention. </p>
<p>Beginning with fine print micro-sized text in the wrong place, oboy, are you becoming money hungry and/or just plain evil ?<br />
Are you going to close the source code too and put a price on miro ? </p>
<p>It seems you are going in that direction&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2009/06/the-open-video-conference-was-awesome/comment-page-1/#comment-67455</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, i didn&#039;t even see that... 
Was it added recently, like after the complaints ? 
 
That text is too small and in the wrong place. 
Was it placed there so people wouldn&#039;t see it ? 
What person in there right mind can&#039;t see that that text is in the wrong place ? 
Seems to be placed on that page so people _will_ miss it. I am beginning to trust miro less and less.. 
 
I mean as soon as the &#039;save to&#039; dialog appears i choose a folder, click save and close that web tab/window  _without_ reading anything on that page. 
And i think that many people does the same thing. 
The only time i read that page is when the download doesn&#039;t start. 
 
That text should be place on the _main_ download page (  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.getmiro.com/download/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.getmiro.com/download/&lt;/a&gt; ) 
and in a way to gets the users attention. 
 
Beginning with fine print micro-sized text in the wrong place, oboy, are you becoming money hungry and/or just plain evil ? 
Are you going to close the source code too and put a price on miro ? 
 
It seems you are going in that direction... 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, i didn&#039;t even see that&#8230;<br />
Was it added recently, like after the complaints ? </p>
<p>That text is too small and in the wrong place.<br />
Was it placed there so people wouldn&#039;t see it ?<br />
What person in there right mind can&#039;t see that that text is in the wrong place ?<br />
Seems to be placed on that page so people _will_ miss it. I am beginning to trust miro less and less.. </p>
<p>I mean as soon as the &#039;save to&#039; dialog appears i choose a folder, click save and close that web tab/window  _without_ reading anything on that page.<br />
And i think that many people does the same thing.<br />
The only time i read that page is when the download doesn&#039;t start. </p>
<p>That text should be place on the _main_ download page (  <a href="http://www.getmiro.com/download/" target="_blank">http://www.getmiro.com/download/</a> )<br />
and in a way to gets the users attention. </p>
<p>Beginning with fine print micro-sized text in the wrong place, oboy, are you becoming money hungry and/or just plain evil ?<br />
Are you going to close the source code too and put a price on miro ? </p>
<p>It seems you are going in that direction&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nicholasPCF</title>
		<link>http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2009/06/the-open-video-conference-was-awesome/comment-page-1/#comment-67400</link>
		<dc:creator>nicholasPCF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James-- OpenCandy is a service that we have been experimenting with to earn some revenue to support Miro development.  They&#039;ve had heard the complaints about privacy and I think have moved in the right direction, but we are currently re-evaluating our relationship and may make some changes shortly.  I completely understand your concerns and I think you are asking the right questions, issues that we are also concerned about.  Finding the right types of revenue opportunities that let us continue our work, but don&#039;t conflict with our mission is a challenge, and we&#039;re always trying to do better. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James&#8211; OpenCandy is a service that we have been experimenting with to earn some revenue to support Miro development.  They&#039;ve had heard the complaints about privacy and I think have moved in the right direction, but we are currently re-evaluating our relationship and may make some changes shortly.  I completely understand your concerns and I think you are asking the right questions, issues that we are also concerned about.  Finding the right types of revenue opportunities that let us continue our work, but don&#039;t conflict with our mission is a challenge, and we&#039;re always trying to do better.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
		<link>http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2009/06/the-open-video-conference-was-awesome/comment-page-1/#comment-67395</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey. There&#039;s a notice on the download page that we use OpenCandy, explaining what it does. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey. There&#039;s a notice on the download page that we use OpenCandy, explaining what it does.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2009/06/the-open-video-conference-was-awesome/comment-page-1/#comment-66564</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they seem to be using opencandy.com 
yepp they did a microsoft and didn&#039;t tell us about this new &quot;feature&quot; in the installer 
sigh, product_key is it  windows product_key ? 
machine_code ? why ?!!! 
 
Seems even open source is going evil 
what&#039;s next? 
closing the miro source code and sell it for a price ? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they seem to be using opencandy.com<br />
yepp they did a microsoft and didn&#039;t tell us about this new &quot;feature&quot; in the installer<br />
sigh, product_key is it  windows product_key ?<br />
machine_code ? why ?!!! </p>
<p>Seems even open source is going evil<br />
what&#039;s next?<br />
closing the miro source code and sell it for a price ?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2009/06/the-open-video-conference-was-awesome/comment-page-1/#comment-66563</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WARNING to all installing miro, 
it sends private and traceable data: here are some: 
/?clientv=5&amp;language=sv,sv&amp;machine_code=******&amp;method=get_offers&amp;os=WIN5.1SP2&amp;product_key=*****&amp;v=1.0&amp;signature=************ 
**** = removed 
 
what the hell are the devs doing ? 
trying to be microsoft and molest it&#039;s users ? 
 
We users require an answer to what you are doing and why  !!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WARNING to all installing miro,<br />
it sends private and traceable data: here are some:<br />
/?clientv=5&amp;language=sv,sv&amp;machine_code=******&amp;method=get_offers&amp;os=WIN5.1SP2&amp;product_key=*****&amp;v=1.0&amp;signature=************<br />
**** = removed </p>
<p>what the hell are the devs doing ?<br />
trying to be microsoft and molest it&#039;s users ? </p>
<p>We users require an answer to what you are doing and why  !!!</p>
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		<title>By: forex</title>
		<link>http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2009/06/the-open-video-conference-was-awesome/comment-page-1/#comment-66487</link>
		<dc:creator>forex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Miro is amazing! I love the concept. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Miro is amazing! I love the concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Robb</title>
		<link>http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2009/06/the-open-video-conference-was-awesome/comment-page-1/#comment-66474</link>
		<dc:creator>Robb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is an amazon S3 address based upon my lookup, so that is probably where PCF is purchasing filespace from Amazon&#039;s S3 fileservice see &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_S3&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_S3&lt;/a&gt; 
 
Anyways, I&#039;m not one of the programmers just thought I&#039;d try to answer the question. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is an amazon S3 address based upon my lookup, so that is probably where PCF is purchasing filespace from Amazon&#039;s S3 fileservice see <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_S3" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_S3</a> </p>
<p>Anyways, I&#039;m not one of the programmers just thought I&#039;d try to answer the question.</p>
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