Comments on: Gatekeepers at Work: YouTube Yanks Egyptian Activist http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2007/11/gatekeepers-at-work-youtube-yanks-egyptian-activist/ Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:33:08 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Lisa Boulay http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2007/11/gatekeepers-at-work-youtube-yanks-egyptian-activist/comment-page-1/#comment-38785 Lisa Boulay Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:28:28 +0000 http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2007/11/gatekeepers-at-work-youtube-yanks-egyptian-activist/#comment-38785 All right, then, I'll go to hell. All right, then, I’ll go to hell.

]]> By: Getting videos to top of Google http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2007/11/gatekeepers-at-work-youtube-yanks-egyptian-activist/comment-page-1/#comment-38447 Getting videos to top of Google Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:10:20 +0000 http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2007/11/gatekeepers-at-work-youtube-yanks-egyptian-activist/#comment-38447 <strong>Getting videos to top of Google...</strong> Heres how to OWN Google... Getting videos to top of Google…

Heres how to OWN Google…

]]> By: James "YogiFish" Herring http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2007/11/gatekeepers-at-work-youtube-yanks-egyptian-activist/comment-page-1/#comment-38225 James "YogiFish" Herring Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:09:56 +0000 http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2007/11/gatekeepers-at-work-youtube-yanks-egyptian-activist/#comment-38225 Thank you for writing this story Nicolas :) I've used Miro to gain access to videos that I didn't even know was available, or even had been produced. If knowledge is what makes us all stronger, then those who seek to oppress the populous will prefer ignorance to maintain their dominance and control. The revolution will be televised, and it will be downloaded with Miro. Thank you for writing this story Nicolas :) I’ve used Miro to gain access to videos that I didn’t even know was available, or even had been produced.

If knowledge is what makes us all stronger, then those who seek to oppress the populous will prefer ignorance to maintain their dominance and control.

The revolution will be televised, and it will be downloaded with Miro.

]]> By: Nicholas Reville http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2007/11/gatekeepers-at-work-youtube-yanks-egyptian-activist/comment-page-1/#comment-38082 Nicholas Reville Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:18:20 +0000 http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2007/11/gatekeepers-at-work-youtube-yanks-egyptian-activist/#comment-38082 Fuchs-- it's not that YouTube shouldn't have a TOS or that they should allow any kind of content on their site or even that they made a bad decision in this case (I think they did, but that's besides the point). The problem is that YouTube's TOS shouldn't be in a position of determining what people have access to. If YouTube wasn't so dominant, it wouldn't matter, but many people will never know about it if it's not on YouTube. Consider traditional television: anyone can make a VHS tape and hand it around to friends. But if it's not on TV, it won't impact the public debate. Fuchs– it’s not that YouTube shouldn’t have a TOS or that they should allow any kind of content on their site or even that they made a bad decision in this case (I think they did, but that’s besides the point). The problem is that YouTube’s TOS shouldn’t be in a position of determining what people have access to. If YouTube wasn’t so dominant, it wouldn’t matter, but many people will never know about it if it’s not on YouTube. Consider traditional television: anyone can make a VHS tape and hand it around to friends. But if it’s not on TV, it won’t impact the public debate.

]]> By: Fuchs http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2007/11/gatekeepers-at-work-youtube-yanks-egyptian-activist/comment-page-1/#comment-38081 Fuchs Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:04:39 +0000 http://www.getmiro.com/blog/2007/11/gatekeepers-at-work-youtube-yanks-egyptian-activist/#comment-38081 It's not that simple, or actually it is: He violated the TOS of the service, people complained, and the youtube staff enforced the rules by suspending the account (depending on whether this article describes the complete and true story). You have similar rules in your TOS at http://www.getmiro.com/terms/ like "We may, but have no obligation to, remove Content and accounts containing Content that we determine in our sole discretion are unlawful, offensive, threatening, libelous, defamatory, obscene or otherwise objectionable or violates any party's intellectual property or these Terms of Use.". I guess that's just the way it is these days... Nevertheless I agree that competition in information distribution is a good thing -- a must. The responsibility to _choose_ lies in the hand of the users. It's not that there aren't services more suitable for this kind of content. If this story helps people in remembering this responsibility, that'd be a small but important step towards more freedom of information and knowledge. It’s not that simple, or actually it is: He violated the TOS of the service, people complained, and the youtube staff enforced the rules by suspending the account (depending on whether this article describes the complete and true story).

You have similar rules in your TOS at http://www.getmiro.com/terms/ like “We may, but have no obligation to, remove Content and accounts containing Content that we determine in our sole discretion are unlawful, offensive, threatening, libelous, defamatory, obscene or otherwise objectionable or violates any party’s intellectual property or these Terms of Use.”.

I guess that’s just the way it is these days…

Nevertheless I agree that competition in information distribution is a good thing — a must. The responsibility to _choose_ lies in the hand of the users. It’s not that there aren’t services more suitable for this kind of content.

If this story helps people in remembering this responsibility, that’d be a small but important step towards more freedom of information and knowledge.

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